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POSTED BY: deux_tone on 10/01/2008 11:39:30


I’m currently using a Nikon D200 set to record high resolution RAW and a basic low quality JPG alongside each other. I simply use the low quality jpg for reference purposes to quickly access images in an ordinary Windows file to establish which equivalent raw files are worth editing. Jpgs also allows me a quick way to upload and show images while working.
 Having experimented in various raw conversion software, I’d recently settled on ACR built into Photoshop CS3, using Bridge CS3 to access and rate raw files, although now I have converted to Lightroom for my entire workflow of raw files. Previous to this I’d also tried out Nikon Capture NX a few times.
 My problem relates to the way in which ACR v Nikon Capture NX render the same raw file in terms of tone and colour, using their default settings (simply opening the file in each software without making any adjustment).
 I use my D200 set pretty much to normal modes in-camera, although these settings should simply apply to in-camera processing of jpg images and not raw files. When Capture NX opens a raw file it appears by default to apply most of the in-camera settings and the result is a starting raw file on screen that is vibrant and looks great. It also looks virtually identical in terms of colour and tonal quality to the in-camera processed jpg.
 When the same file is opened in ACR/Lightroom however, it initially opens to look vibrant too, the same as in NX and the jpg, but almost immediately it renders to the software’s default and the image desaturates and reduces in tonality to give a very flat and lacklustre starting raw file image.
 In my opinion the version opened in NX and the one that initially appears for a second in ACR is very close to what I require, and using the in-camera processed jpg as a reference image I struggle to achieve anything close using the various develop tools in ACR/Lightroom.
 I much prefer the whole Adobe workflow in terms of either Lightroom or a combination of Bridge and CS3, however NX is giving me much more pleasing results but is more clumsy and slow to use.
 Any ideas or suggestions?




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POSTED BY: ThorstenM on 10/01/2008 11:58:17


This is expected behaviour and it happens with Canon CR2 files as well. It's one of the benefits of using the manufacturers native raw converter. There's nothing you can do about it (although I'm open to correction as I'm not familiar with the workings of Lightroom).

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POSTED BY: artward on 10/01/2008 13:56:33


I work in a similar workflow to you......RAW  - NX Capture  and/or ACR with CS3...I have never used lightroom though.


I have noticed the same happening through my workflow.....I trace some of my problem down to original colour mode setting...ie I sometimes change between adobe 98 and sRGB  in the flow.....which definately brought a drop of about 10% in colour saturation....I am at the minute monitoring images I work on from RAW through to final file........trying to overcome or at least get a real understanding of what is happening....so it was interesting to see this post.  I love to experiment and see what happens...hence my flow is not a strict regime and I am maybe not even aware of some of the changes that take place or where.


 I agree with you though, NX has some really nice touches but is awkward and not a flowing programme to use...more like a work, work program....I think they really need to refine the working interface...unlike ACR which I find a really nice workface...but..I need aspect of NX that ACR does not give me and I need aspects of ACR that NX does not give...and sometimes its a matter of sacrificing one for the other.....I hold out for decent updates and improvements......Software in general is designed to sell and make money and compatability is something that is not too high on the agenda across platforms and wares.....in an ideal world!!


I will keep you posted here if I find out anything relating


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